Title: Server: multimodal sessions lose all KV reuse on a tail token mismatch — no common-prefix rewind, no disk-KV fallback, no continued disk stores
Observed on: 6289c51 (current main), DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision-Exp MXFP4, --vision server mode, --batched-session 2, disk KV enabled (--kv-disk-dir, 1 TB budget).
Summary
For multimodal (vision) chat requests, KV reuse works perfectly while the
conversation round-trips exactly (multimodal live kv hit identity=fingerprint-match,
sub-second turns on a ~335k-token prompt). But as soon as one request diverges
from the live session by even a handful of tokens at the tail, the server falls
back to a full cold prefill from token 0 — three reuse mechanisms that exist for
text sessions are all unavailable or inert for multimodal ones:
-
No common-prefix rewind on live token-mismatch. The live-prefix check
computes the common prefix length but only accepts it on an exact full match:
ds4-server: live kv cache miss live=340263 prompt=340551 common=340144 vision=match reason=token-mismatch
ds4-server: chat ctx=0..340551:340551 TOOLS prompt start
99.96% of the prompt (340,144 / 340,551 tokens) was identical to the live
session, yet the server restarted prefill from 0. The GLM path right above
it does exactly this kind of rewind (rewound GLM live prefix from %d to %d,
memory-rewind cache source). The DS4 path is all-or-nothing:
cached = common == old_pos && j->req.prompt.len >= old_pos ? common : 0;
-
Disk KV load is gated off for multimodal requests (ds4_server.c, request
path around the live-miss fallback):
if (!multimodal && s->kv.enabled && cached == 0 && old_pos >= s->kv.opt.min_tokens) {
kv_cache_store_current(s, slot, "evict");
}
if (!multimodal && cached == 0) {
disk_cached = kv_cache_try_load(...);
}
So a vision session that misses the live cache never consults the disk store
at all, even when a matching checkpoint exists.
-
No continued disk checkpoints are written during multimodal cold
prefills. On c0a6119 the same workload logged
kv cache stored tokens=... reason=continued every ~30k tokens during a long
prefill. On 6289c51, three full ~330k-token prefills (18 minutes each)
wrote zero checkpoints — so even if (2) were reachable, there would be
nothing fresh to load. (The text-prefix memory path did resume one later
turn at 100,352 of 346,533 tokens, so partial reuse is not entirely dead,
but the deep disk checkpoints are never written.)
Trigger
A coding-agent client (OpenAI chat-completions, tools, one screenshot per turn)
occasionally re-serializes the previous assistant reply slightly differently
than the server's generated token stream (thinking/DSML round-trip). The
divergence lands inside the previous reply's tail (e.g. 119 tokens before the
end of a 340,263-token history). With text sessions this costs nothing; with a
vision session every such turn is a full ~330k prefill ≈ 18 minutes on an
M3 Ultra.
Suggested fixes
- On live token-mismatch with
vision=match, rewind the DS4 session to
common (same approach as the existing GLM memory-rewind path) instead of
discarding the whole session.
- Allow disk-KV load/store for multimodal sessions (store text-prefix KV even
if image embeddings can't be serialized; the embedding cache already covers
re-encoding cheaply).
Sanitized log excerpt
21:47:24 multimodal live kv hit images=1 cached=334535 prompt=334603 identity=fingerprint-match
21:47:25 chat ctx=334535..334603:68 TOOLS prompt done 1.041s # ~1 s turns while round-trip is exact
...
21:55:10 live kv cache miss live=340263 prompt=340551 common=340144 vision=match reason=token-mismatch
21:55:10 chat ctx=0..340551:340551 TOOLS prompt start # full 18-min prefill, zero continued stores
(Happy to provide longer excerpts privately if useful.)
Title: Server: multimodal sessions lose all KV reuse on a tail token mismatch — no common-prefix rewind, no disk-KV fallback, no continued disk stores
Observed on:
6289c51(current main), DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision-Exp MXFP4,--visionserver mode,--batched-session 2, disk KV enabled (--kv-disk-dir, 1 TB budget).Summary
For multimodal (vision) chat requests, KV reuse works perfectly while the
conversation round-trips exactly (
multimodal live kv hit identity=fingerprint-match,sub-second turns on a ~335k-token prompt). But as soon as one request diverges
from the live session by even a handful of tokens at the tail, the server falls
back to a full cold prefill from token 0 — three reuse mechanisms that exist for
text sessions are all unavailable or inert for multimodal ones:
No common-prefix rewind on live token-mismatch. The live-prefix check
computes the common prefix length but only accepts it on an exact full match:
99.96% of the prompt (340,144 / 340,551 tokens) was identical to the live
session, yet the server restarted prefill from 0. The GLM path right above
it does exactly this kind of rewind (
rewound GLM live prefix from %d to %d,memory-rewindcache source). The DS4 path is all-or-nothing:Disk KV load is gated off for multimodal requests (ds4_server.c, request
path around the live-miss fallback):
So a vision session that misses the live cache never consults the disk store
at all, even when a matching checkpoint exists.
No
continueddisk checkpoints are written during multimodal coldprefills. On
c0a6119the same workload loggedkv cache stored tokens=... reason=continuedevery ~30k tokens during a longprefill. On
6289c51, three full ~330k-token prefills (18 minutes each)wrote zero checkpoints — so even if (2) were reachable, there would be
nothing fresh to load. (The text-prefix memory path did resume one later
turn at 100,352 of 346,533 tokens, so partial reuse is not entirely dead,
but the deep disk checkpoints are never written.)
Trigger
A coding-agent client (OpenAI chat-completions, tools, one screenshot per turn)
occasionally re-serializes the previous assistant reply slightly differently
than the server's generated token stream (thinking/DSML round-trip). The
divergence lands inside the previous reply's tail (e.g. 119 tokens before the
end of a 340,263-token history). With text sessions this costs nothing; with a
vision session every such turn is a full ~330k prefill ≈ 18 minutes on an
M3 Ultra.
Suggested fixes
vision=match, rewind the DS4 session tocommon(same approach as the existing GLMmemory-rewindpath) instead ofdiscarding the whole session.
if image embeddings can't be serialized; the embedding cache already covers
re-encoding cheaply).
Sanitized log excerpt
(Happy to provide longer excerpts privately if useful.)